Garber Speaks To Prem Bosses

To follow up on Timmy's article, relegation also allows an avenue for teams that are losing money. By being relegated, you then compete in a league with lower cost requirements (lower player salaries, lower transfer fees).

 

I concur, it's good as any I've seen.
However I would like to point out you apparently have a case of Link-o-phobia. Why is that?
USUALLY in cases like this, I put links to someone who said something better than I can. Or more authoritatively.

 

Wow. Thanks for all the credit guys. Think I should shop the piece around??

And as a corollary to my point: its going to be interesting to see what happens with the Phoenix Coyotes. You may recall the team is losing money hand over fist and a prospective owner bid on the team recently with complete intentions on moving it to Ontario. But the league stepped in and refused the sell, and now own it.

Deadspin, as always, had some good stuff on it: http://deadspin.com/5371533/the-nhl-get ... o-the-fans

 

Well, much as I like Loney.. look at the first quote he picks on.

Loney responds>

Well, yes.

But it might have been better if he'd actually REFUTED Garber instead of falling back on:

- Really? What would happen, Dan? I mean this isnt 5 years ago... What would happen if AEG dumped the Galaxy?

Loney goes on to point out that it wasnt the Cosmos that killed pro soccer, it was the Cosmos wannabe's.

Well, YEAH. Then he goes on to point out Twins making the playoffs, and various others errata in the sports world. As well as the old favorite center-targets, Cowboys and Yankees.

So what! Did he mention the Marlins? No...Seems to me their M.O. ought to be significant.

The point is that all Loney did was to attack Garber on the basis of hubris, and chutzpah. And that's fair.
It's why I posted that in the first place.

Doesnt refuteGarber's premise, though. Do any of you see anything in the Garber quote you disagree with? Other than the qualitative 'Great Success'.


One other little niggler..

HTH did Garber get on that podium?!! Did he just barge in and grab the Mic?

 

Well, considering that you and one other recently jumped on my ass for using the broad brush perjorative: 'socialist', I'm SURE you set him straight on the difference between Government Control and a cartel...

Right? Seems to me, THAT guy 'doesnt have a clue'.. right?

Or MAYBE you just cut and fit to meet your point. Dont need a link for that, do ya?

 

God damn! That might be one of the best single statements in the history of sport.

 

It might.. or might not.
What did Garber say about relegation? Clarifying my point: I assume his view of relegation was implied in the explanation of the US Sporting system.

How about we spin off some of the non-pertinent points onto other threads. Relegation, excepted.
{pfpredicts}
'Cause 'EuroSuperLiga' aint gonna have it. Unless you regard 'Buy-in' and 'Cash-out' as methods of relegation.{/pfpredicts}

But here's a nugget: Garber plumps for Stan Kroenke {Rapids, Nuggets, Avalanche} for control of Arse. Presumably outside the speech he gave.

 

How are those points not pertinent, oh wise sage? You can't compare MLS to the EPL in large part b/c of the differences. Champions League and relegation (vs relocation here) are two primary differences.

 

How many times do I have to point out Garber was speaking more of the US system, not MLS per se?

How about reading the OP? It's ridiculous on the face.

Note I also asked WHY Garber was speaking to them. Did he crash that meeting?

Now... I'll insert what may seem to be equally outrageous. The FA MAY be interested in how MLS does things, once the big guys bolt.
But I dont think so... I think they'll be more interested in the NFL/ MLB models.
And NO.. I dont think what's left of FA would do away with relegation. I just dont think the top three in EPL II will be promoted without writing a check.

 

The Big Boys aren't going to bolt. That window closed. Yeah, there might be a Euro Super League with the "men among boys" teams like the Old Firm and others from some of the other small leagues with the same winner year after year, but no team in a top league will join.

Why: England. The Big Four won't be the top four this year and not only doesn't it make sense to leave that level of competition to go play against FC Copenhagen and Anderlecht and there'd be too many arguments over which EPL teams *deserved* to go.

Add to this the recent increased competetiveness of the Bundesliga, Ligue 1, and Serie A, the incentive is just not there and Barca and Real Madrid alone can't make it happen.

 

I dont understand.... where did you get the idea EuroSuperLiga inclusion would be 'promotion on merit'?
- if it was the use of Big 4 {or 5} sorry... has nothing to do with league record.

Or a selection from each national league? And the only 'voting' done for admission would be from the core of founders, then existing members, same as any other elite club. You got the money and a sound business plan to increase revenue for all, you're in.

The only impediment to this EUFA breakaway scenario is FIFA. Which organization is more powerful?

I'm not saying it's GOING TO HAPPEN, I am saying there will be a plan to make it happen. And it will be on the premise of a league for USE.
I THINK it WILL HAPPEN.

 

PF. Yer missin' the point. The business model only works if the clubs are perceived to be the top clubs, a step above the rest. Any weakening of that perception means less TV revenue.

Especially for the EPL teams, who have the best TV contract already, a leap into a new league, with a new contract to be negotiated, when the argument could be made that Citeh, Spurs, Everton, and Villa are as good as ManU, Arse, Chelea, and Liverpool means that there is zero chance the "big four" would be able to equal their current EPL TV revenue.

 

I did not miss the point at all. You just made my argument. You just have to think bigger.